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I found these results interesting, but I think it is because I think of a cultural Mormon differently. I think of it as someone who attends church but is not really devout and only goes for the social aspects. I understand that it would be hard to determine who in the data set fits that definition. With your definition I can see that cultural Mormon’s would be more common outside Utah and the Jello belt. But with my definition I think the numbers would be flipped. I live in Maryland which means that any type of church service or going to meetings results in more time being required because of travel time. Walking to church or ministering or to drop something off at another members home is different from getting in the car and driving 10, 20, or 30 minutes (or more in some cases). Because of this I have often felt that it is hard to be a lukewarm member where the church is more spread out. Being “active” just takes more time.

This post also makes me think about the idea of “Mormon culture” that comes from Utah and to some extent other places in the jello belt. Because most of the wards in my stake have large numbers of western transplants, I feel that there are some definite influences of that western Mormon culture here. I find it even in myself, a convert of 40 years who has never lived in Utah (except for the MTC), because that has been the predominant influence in my wards. If you go to church in units in small towns in the midwest, south, or east there is a much different culture in those units. In the most recent changes in the handbook, I feel that the goal is to use doctrine and then principles to guide the administration of a worldwide church. In the past the handbook was much more influenced by “Mormon culture” based upon the ways things had been done. These were not bad, but they often did not scale or transfer well to other areas of the world (e.g., the pre-block meeting schedule that was a huge burden on those who had to travel long distances to get to church). So I believe this is an exciting time in the church as leaders are given the basic doctrines and principles to use in leading and administering the church, then they are encouraged to seek the inspiration that they are entitled to as they seek to do what is best for their members. As Elder Holland said, “Dream dreams.”

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Jordan's avatar

I hate it when the data refutes my biases! Although, I also want to second Eric's point about cultural mormons being more those who show up because its expected but who don't personally practice or believe (as well as his point that identifying such trends in data like these is essentially impossible, no worries) - actually, do you think it could be possible to try and identify such a population by examining those who attend weekly but rank religious importance/prayer/scripture/etc. as less than very important?

My experience with "Utah Mormons", being from the Pacific Northwest or "Heathenland" as I've heard it called, mostly involves arrogance on their part. That no good thing can come from anywhere in the church outside of Utah. I've definitely felt like a second-class member in their company. This has been ESPECIALLY true of missionaries from Utah, who just can't wait to go home to where the church is true again.

But, I've also long heard it said that unfortunately (for the narrative), you'll find the best members of the church in Utah. Also the worst, but the former still outnumber the latter. And the data seems to bear that up. It would be so cool if the church (or some related entity) conducted an LDS survey on the same scale or level of detail as Pew's!

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